When communicating secession to Florida residents, we realize the biggest apprehension and fear that is associated with leaving the state and the federal government is the question of ,"how will I live." So many Floridians lie on their social security and disability incomes. We are extremely hopeful that the accessibility to the funds we paid into in those accounts will remain with the people after their county sucessfully secedes. We are not ignoring the very large elephant in the room. Here is an entire page courtesy of Secession 2020.
When you talk about Social Security there are, from what I know, three flavors: 1) SSR - Retirement 2) SSD - Disability 3) SSI - low income Disability
Then you can add on things like Food Stamps, Unemployment, Medicare / Medicade, and other programs of that nature. These are sometimes called “entitlement” programs. What that means is that you are “entitled” to them because you are a US Citizen, pay taxes, worked, whatever. There are some who have tried to make this a 'dirty' definition.
Let me first address the Libertarian and Tea Party types here. These people will dress up their argument in a lot of fancy “hopes” that Fred, the quadriplegic, can die of exposure, starvation, and without medical treatment because, well, just too bad for Fred. They will dress their argument up well, but in the end that is what it will be - “we shouldn't be forced to help Fred [because fuck Fred, we don't care]”
As shown under Myth 3 - you are not paying for these programs, they should be, but they don't pay their full share like you do (They being the rich). When I say rich I mean those people making twice what you do (or way more even).
FICA tax on your income is 7.65% on top of IRS Taxes (and state taxes, and property taxes, and sales taxes (a part of sales taxes includes all the other taxes as a recovery tax)) - er, a lot of taxes. Now the guy who just made your burger at the local burger barn, he pays the same 7.65% that you do. Unless you make 137.7K a year or more, then that number is capped and your taxes go down, for some they are so low compared to income that you won't notice them at all.
Remember though, Fred is your enemy because he is poor and on the government tit.
Break down what benefit Fred gets though. Fred gets 783.00 a month, because he never worked and his family is broke from trying to raise him. The average rent in the United States is $1,078.00 which means Fred can't afford a 1 bedroom apartment on his own. Now, SSI rules state that Fred cannot get his full 783.00 if he lives with anyone and shares bills, in this case his benefit is reduced by 1/3rd plus 20.00 or to 489.80; this means if Fred lives with Stan who also gets SSI they are both together paid 939.60 - which is not enough to pay rent. Remember this is just for rent, not for clothes, soap, laundry soap, toilet paper, deodorant, electric, phone, etc. Yeah he gets SNAP (Food Stamps) - and he is sporting it with 192.00 a month, or 6.40 a day for food, of course that is not much food at all is it; never mind trying to pay for the pan to cook it in.
Getting what is happening here yet?
Don't worry though, the average wait time to get Section 8 housing (the reduced rate housing for poor people) is only 3 years (36 months). Some larger cities have a waiting list over 7 years, just for clarification. Fred will only have to live under a bridge for that long, and keep his post office box open (but he can't get one because he doesn't have a permanent address) so he has to have a paid PO box, and a phone, but don't worry they gave him an “Obama Phone” - you know the refurbished phones that don't work (see Obama Phone Myth, below)
This is one of my all-time favorites. For most “libertarian” or “Tea party” types we have to use simple concepts, most of the time without crayons, so they can understand things.
Libertarian and Tea Party types leave out the Big Picture and skip over those inconvenient facts. They and the Left share that in common.
People who make way more money than you do have all banned together and convinced you that the poor are your problem, the sad part is you believe this. The only ones causing problems for these programs are the people who make over $137,700.00 a year (as of 2020).
Most voters (you) don't make that much do you? The average person in the USA makes 57,456.00 and you pay FULL Social Security payments. People who make 137.7K a year don't pay full Social Security payments. You see their Social Security taxes are capped and they will NEVER pay more than 10,534.00 in taxes. In simple translation your big boss who pulls down 137,700 a year pays about double what you pay and the company owner pays the exact same amount that he does; make 1,000,000 a year, same taxes.
I guess some of you don't understand that you will most likely never make that kind of money. What surprises me is how many of you will say this system is fair to everyone. Instead of a lower income cap, where if you make under XX amount you should pay nothing, as it is hard enough to make it right, you cheer for greed.
Actually, yes they did.
“Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise.” –Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1785 1)
“The rich alone use imported articles, and on these alone the whole taxes of the General Government are levied. … Our revenues liberated by the discharge of the public debt, and its surplus applied to canals, roads, schools, etc., the farmer will see his government supported, his children educated, and the face of his country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone, without his being called on to spend a cent from his earnings.” –Thomas Jefferson to Thaddeus Kosciusko, 1811 2)
“A most powerful objection always arises to propositions of public works. It is that public undertakings are carelessly managed and much money spent to little purpose.” –Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1784 3)
“It is a duty certainly to give our sparings to those who want; but to see also that they are faithfully distributed and duly apportioned to the respective wants of those receivers. And why give through agents whom we know not, to persons whom we know not, and in countries from which we get no account, when we can do it at short hand to objects under our eye, through agents we know and to supply wants we see?” –Thomas Jefferson to Michael Megear, 1823
“The poor who have neither property, friends, nor strength to labor are boarded in the houses of good farmers, to whom a stipulated sum is annually paid. To those who are able to help themselves a little or have friends from whom they derive some succor, inadequate however to their full maintenance, supplementary aids are given which enable them to live comfortably in their own houses or in the houses of their friends. Vagabonds without visible property or vocation, are placed in work houses, where they are well clothed, fed, lodged, and made to labor.” –Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XIV, 1782
“With respect to marine hospitals… such establishments have been made by the General Government in the several States,… a portion of seaman's wages is drawn for their support, and the government furnishes what is deficient.” –Thomas Jefferson to James Ronaldson, 1813.
“Those who want the dispositions to give, easily find reasons why they ought not to give. This world abounds indeed with misery; to lighten its burthen, we must divide it with one another.” –Thomas Jefferson to Maria Cosway, 1786
Now, you've been swamped with “Danger, Danger, they are going to take your stuff!” for years over this. Well, you've been lied to. Jefferson openly stated it, go back and read it again “the rich alone….” should pay taxes. You shouldn't (well unless you make way above what is average to survive, then yeah, you should pay taxes.)
The founding fathers imagined a country where the average person paid NOTHING in taxes; well okay, the average farmer paid 0.25C in total taxes for the year; or ONE day's pay. Read up on TAXES, which is modeled after the same “tax system” that the founding fathers used.
The “Lifeline” program started under Regan in 1984. It provided a free landline phone for low income families; recognizing that phones have become essential for police, ambulances, etc. It was expanded under Clinton in 96 and Bush started the wireless phone services in 2008. Prior to 2012 the low income family had to pay for an unlocked phone to get the service (at that time the cost of the phone was more than paying for 2 years of service in advance, so the program was rarely used). Amendments in 2012 allowed phone companies to provide the phones and service to low income qualified families as a full tax write-off. Example: If AT&Z sold Zoid phones for 1,200 and gave Fred one, they could write off 1,200 in taxes. Sounds good on its face, but wait, there is more.
What AT&Z would do is provide Fred with a phone that was returned for some defect, and write off 1,200 in taxes. So Fred gets a phone with a busted screen, for free - sounds like a great deal right? AT&Z tries to call Fred and he won't answer, so they mail him and say “Fred, you have to use your minutes or lose your phone!” (AT&Z won't get paid unless Fred uses the phone). Hey AT&Z My phone wont work it has a busted screen! Oh, sorry Fred here let us send you a new phone (writes off another 1,200 in taxes) sends Fred a phone with a bad charging port, that was returned by a customer who pays. (AT&Z just tripled their profits) Fred uses a few minutes and next month the whole scam is ran again.
I have two friends in real life that use this program and have actually seen them both go through this. They saved back a bit each month until they could afford to buy one of the 100.00 phones that the company sells that would work for them.
Remember though, Fred is the freeloader that is your problem. Not AT&Z for writing off 13,200 in taxes from giving away busted phones to poor people; per poor person.
There are two basic ways to deal with them, listed here:
Special note is made about transferring the system here. In transferring the system here, there will be no overall change in the way the system works, or the benefits earned. In simple words you can't bring the system here, keep the money and not pay it out to those who have earned it even by inheritance. With honest government, with honest investments into the fund and making sure they (government employees, hired and elected) are tied to the system it will not fail.
The United States would keep paying those benefits as they are legally required to do for those that have already earned them; for as long as they would have earned them if they had remained citizens of that United States without interruption - and with cost adjusted increases or decreases. A dollar here will not mean a Dollar there, so they will have to pay that difference.
For anyone else who has paid into the system, or who's parents paid into the system - the United States will return ALL ASSETS earned and paid, in GOLD and we will manage the funds under a like program here. Like program means a program with no taking of benefits from anyone, and managed honestly to the benefit of all citizens. (see Fix Two)
It is VERY important to base our economy off of gold. Simply put, with the right safeguards, there is no way to use money leveraging through trade and bankrupt the economy. Gold based money is always worth what it was worth (while complicated see the Money section to understand this).
They will give us the Gold and we will re-create the same system here as there; we can simplify it, sure. Some of the changes would be: - All employees and elected officials of government will use the same system as we the people (they will work to protect it then) - All persons who earned under the old system will have the same earnings under this system, including qualifications (we will not disenfranchise anyone) - No more income caps, everyone will pay the same percentage into the system (no more allowing the wealthy to pay almost nothing compared to the average person who pays 8%) - The amount paid as a minimum under the program will be set as the 'poverty level' and that will be the first threshold for income taxes (by making this the same number the only way to lower the tax brackets will be to increase our standard of living)
The fund will be allowed to make no risk investments, at no point will the fund be allowed to risk the peoples money. These rules should be easy to maintain because we will have a NO vote that ends the two party system as well as keeps lessor candidates out of office.
We don't pretend that this won't require negotiation, even at the end of the sword. What we have discovered from the Left is that they want us gone, but they want to keep what we have created (earned) at the same time. We won't let that happen.
The US will be required to give us our earnings and inheritance as well.
1) https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Madison/01-08-02-02022) https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/03-03-02-04393) https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Washington/04-01-02-0160secede/social_security.txt · Last modified: 2020